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Post by bowtech on Feb 3, 2006 21:32:50 GMT -5
Make your suggestions and I will choose two from the list [  ] My choice is the new Magnus Snuffer . I need one fixed and one replacement head for your picks. I have given up on exspandables for this year because (basicly)the way I test , if you are looking for a head that passes , you are looking at a fixed head. The whole idea behind my tests are to prove out heads that can withstand the worst hits. The theory behind finding the best heads is #1: lesser shots will not cost you new heads and #2:they will perform on worst case scenarios which can and do happen despite our best efforts to avoid them. So take a hard look at those heads and when you think you have found one that #1: you will hunt with and #2: You believe is rock solid , let me know [  ] |
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Post by admin on Feb 3, 2006 21:38:37 GMT -5
Well, I am looking forward to your review on that Magnus Snuffer, I've seen that name come up quite a bit lately, so I'm sure everyone will be looking forward to hearing what you uncover.
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Post by bowtech on Feb 3, 2006 21:43:56 GMT -5
I will be VERY embarrassed if it fails  ;D |
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Post by bowtech on Feb 4, 2006 8:55:44 GMT -5
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Post by admin on Feb 4, 2006 9:52:34 GMT -5
Guten Morgan, vas ist das? ist gute, ya?
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Post by bowtech on Feb 4, 2006 9:59:03 GMT -5
ist gute? , maybe  I had to run upstairs and take a cold shower after looking at it ;D Do you see the thickness of those blades!?!  |
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Post by admin on Feb 4, 2006 10:03:54 GMT -5
The Germans are definately know for their craftsmanship. I live there for 7 years. Oh and the beer isn't too bad either. ;D
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Post by ScottC on Feb 5, 2006 12:06:24 GMT -5
ist gute? , maybe I had to run upstairs and take a cold shower after looking at it ;D Do you see the thickness of those blades!?! How much? Looks pretty nice, but looks expensive....like most German things. |
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Post by bowtech on Feb 5, 2006 14:00:57 GMT -5
The BMW of Broadheads ;D
$56. for 3
$96. for 6
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Post by admin on Feb 5, 2006 14:03:49 GMT -5
Yeoooww!!
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Post by ScottC on Feb 5, 2006 14:14:34 GMT -5
The BMW of Broadheads ;D $56. for 3 $96. for 6 Wow!!! ...and everybody thinks Montecs & Tight Points are expensive. |
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Post by bowtech on Feb 5, 2006 15:58:43 GMT -5
Now I look at it a bit diffrently If it does the job without error, cost does not matter at that point. I look at things like this...would I pay $56. to insure that animal goes down? YUP!  |
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Post by lockmaster on Feb 5, 2006 16:20:32 GMT -5
10-4 on the price reasoning BT. I too would pay the higher price for one I was confident would do the job I expect it to do. I would like to see you do a review on: 1. Magnus Snuffer. 2. Sonics and/or Libertys. 3. Slick Trick. (the ole' beat a dead horse cliche, just to compare the results with your first review in the event the first test was done with heads from a possibly inferior batch....i.e. loose blades) |
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Post by ScottC on Feb 5, 2006 17:02:09 GMT -5
Now I look at it a bit diffrently If it does the job without error, cost does not matter at that point. I look at things like this...would I pay $56. to insure that animal goes down? YUP! Would be nice if it guaranteed a perfect shot. |
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Post by bowtech on Feb 5, 2006 18:18:19 GMT -5
You could always use a gun scottC  _________________________________________________ Snuffer looks like a can do the sonics have already failed ( I have it from a good source) and the slick tricks are up for a re-test. Since I gave the slick tricks a test and improvments have now been made I must do this one again anyway. |
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Post by ScottC on Feb 5, 2006 18:26:49 GMT -5
You used the "G" word, bowtech!!!
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Post by lockmaster on Feb 5, 2006 18:36:25 GMT -5
"G" LOL BT, I have never seen a review on sonics where they failed. Where can I find that?  |
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Post by bowtech on Feb 5, 2006 19:29:50 GMT -5
Oh... there is no review , just a lover of that head who told me he busted one yesterday. Thats not one that I was gonna get to anyway. I am looking for heads that seem infallible so that I may prove them that or not that. I could mess up the Liberty pretty fast I am thinking Two of the three you offer are pretty fair choices |
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Post by Pete on Feb 11, 2006 9:06:37 GMT -5
BT, what'd your friend shoot into? I've shot my Sonics into (and through) 1/2" cedar board. This is my pump house and it was being used as a backstop. The only thing I've found was a few nicks on the blades, taken care of with an accu-sharp. I've never had the blades come loose or shear and I try to practice hard quartering shots to help with shot placement scenarios. One other thing, why won't you test the Sonic/Liberty line? I'm really interested in your views on these. You give better, unbiased tests and results than most archery magazines. They seem to have some bias towards their sponsors.
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Post by bowtech on Feb 11, 2006 9:15:55 GMT -5
BT,why won't you test the Sonic/Liberty line? I'm really interested in your views on these. You give better, unbiased tests and results than most archery magazines. They seem to have some bias towards their sponsors. Ughhh....your really putting me on the spot here I didnt get into it with him but he said he busted one. Alright.....I'll put it in the box for considered heads If what you are saying is the truth (I am sure it is) about Liberty not getting a fair shake then Perhaps I should do it on that basis alone. I need to start getting these manufactures to give me test product! ;D |
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Post by bowtech on Feb 11, 2006 9:28:17 GMT -5
This Email was sent today to the makers of the Liberty head: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Below is a post which requests me to do a test on your liberty head. These requests have been coming to me from other sites as well for nearly a year now. My tests provide a Fail/Pass result with a grade for flight My tests are not like those done by 5shot where a head can receive a good review even when it is not on par with better heads. It seems as though your product will be tested one way or the other this year so this is your heads up You have a good following and I wish you the best of luck. Krisken M. Robinson a.k.a. BowTech huntermike.proboards54.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=review&thread=1139020370&page=1 |
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Post by lockmaster on Feb 11, 2006 9:30:07 GMT -5
Here ya go BT.... This guy may provide you with a few for sonics and or libertys testing I too have put some sonics through a little torture but I would like to see a thorough review from you. e mail Dave at: dave@americanbroadhead.com |
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Post by bowtech on Feb 11, 2006 9:32:32 GMT -5
Yes...the email was sent to his attension |
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Post by Pete on Feb 11, 2006 9:34:05 GMT -5
If they don't send you one, let me know. I'll send you a head (complete) and a separate ferul and replacement blades. Of course these will be in the 100gr version as that is what I shoot. Good luck and I look forward to the review.
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Post by bowtech on Feb 11, 2006 9:42:08 GMT -5
No problem guy I should be able to handle it |
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Post by Pete on Feb 11, 2006 19:32:57 GMT -5
Love the picture! I see a slight resemblance ;D
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Post by bowtech on Feb 11, 2006 20:22:38 GMT -5
;D
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Post by elk4me on Feb 25, 2006 11:11:14 GMT -5
:-[I am curious to see the test results since I have already broken 1 ferrel already give em HELL Bowtech! Guy's I dont know why the ferrul broke so I really want to see the test done too! I shot it out of my bow and missed the arrow did a tumble head over tail a few times and hit a rock and a stump?Could of been operator error . The rest was having major fletch contact,so my opinions dont count. ;D I want to see a fair test also ;)LOCK I hope this answers your ?
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Post by bowtech on Feb 25, 2006 13:44:51 GMT -5
Well the silver flame is done....the president of American broadhead is either trying to dodge me or really has bad timing cause he keeps telling me he wants to talk. About what I have no idea  I have the Muzzy in the pen and I could have finished that today perhaps but it is so cold I just cant do another couple of hours today |
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